Tuesday, July 3, 2018

Q472: Can We Use The 3 Phases of Water (H2O) To Explain and Support The TRINITY?



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I don't want to just assume. So to be sure, are you using the 3 phases of water to explain and support the Trinity?

Jurgen Ruppel
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David Lee Williams Jurgen Ruppel I was using water, to show the possibilities of a Trinity. People just put off the obvious as impossible. No it is not impossible.

David Lee Williams If you ask a scientist what a glass of LIQUID WATER is, he will say:

1. 1 part Oxygen, 2 parts Hydrogen (H2O). 

Now, if you freeze it to ICE, he will say the same thing:

2. 1 part Oxygen, 2 parts Hydrogen (H2O).
 
And, if you heat it up where it becomes STEAM, he will say the same thing;


3. 1 part Oxygen, 2 parts Hydrogen (H2O).

Three (3) Things, totally different. BUT!!! They are the same, and of one body.

Jurgen Ruppel David Lee Williams. No real scholar uses the water phases analogy as a proof, evidence, support, or whatever one would want to call it for the Trinity. Lay people - who have not studied the subject well use poor analogies such as water, and the other famous "marriage/one flesh" concepts. One cannot use an analogy that does not "fit" exactly to prove much.

Water phases are not "simultaneous" (i.e. at the same time). They are sequential. So, the water phases analogy is better used to support modalism. The Three Persons of the Trinity exist simultaneously. The water phases analogy is simply dishonest.

Lonwabo Cam Ka'manci Debate need not to increase tension and anger. Shalom.

THE 3 PHASES OF WATER EXPLAIN & SUPPORT THE DOCTRINE OF GOD'S TRINITY

Lope Columna Jurgen Ruppel, your wrong when you said, "Water phases are not simultaneous" (i.e. at the same time)." Study Physics, and it will teach you that the 3 Phases of WATER are occurring and existing simultaneously.

During winter, the rain water falls as the SOLID snow on rivers or lakes that are LIQUID. That is, even though a lake may appear SOLID, yet, there is LIQUID water below the solidified surface. And, in this situation, STEAM or VAPOR (Water in the gaseous form), is continuously produced. So, the 3 phases of H2O occurs simultaneously.

And in cold places, we see SOLID ICEBERGS floating on LIQUID oceans and seas, with GASEOUS CLOUDS or Vapors above.  

WATER is a symbol of TORAH or The BIBLE. And it is interesting that WATER (H2O) is mentioned by the Bible with regard to TRINITY (1John 5:8).
  • And there are THREE that bear witness in Earth, the SPIRIT, and the WATER, and the BLOOD: and these three agree in ONE. (1Jn 5:8 KJV) 
H2O is the chemical formula for water, ice or steam which consists of 2 atoms of hydrogen and one atom of oxygen.

Lope Columna Thanks, David Lee Williams. Your 3 phases of H2O is a very appropriate analogy to understand the concept of God's TRINITY.

For more explanations, go to: If I Have The MIND OF CHRIST, Do I Still Need To Be BAPTIZED IN WATER? 

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Water is a transparent, tasteless, odorless, and nearly colorless chemical substance that is the main constituent of Earth's streams, lakes, and oceans, and the fluids of most living organisms. Its chemical formula is H2O, meaning that each of its molecules contains one oxygen and two hydrogen atoms that are connected by covalent bonds. Strictly speaking, water refers to the liquid state of a substance that prevails at standard ambient temperature and pressure; but it often refers also to its solid state (ice) or its gaseous state (steam or water vapor). It also occurs in nature as snow, glaciers, ice packs and icebergs, clouds, fog, dew, aquifers, and atmospheric humidity. Water covers 71% of the Earth's surface.[1] It is vital for all known forms of life.
 

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