Can a Christian use drinking like Beer and eat Swine Meat according to the Scriptures?
Mukhtar Masih Gill
Gojra, Pakistan
Lope Columna: Drinking Beer or Wine is not prohibited by the Scriptures. Christ Himself drunk wine (Matthew 11:19, Luke 7:34). And the very first miracle Christ performed is turning water into wine. Actually, drinking wine or beer of a low alcohol content is recommended by the Bible, because it is beneficial to the stomach's digestion process and good for health (1Timothy 5:23, Ecclesiastes 9:7).
- Be no longer a drinker of water only, but use a little WINE FOR YOUR STOMACH'S SAKE and your FREQUENT INFIRMITIES. (1Tim 5:23 HNV)
- Go...DRINK YOUR WINE with A MERRY HEART; for GOD NOW IS PLEASED with YOUR WORKS. (Ecc 9:7 MKJV)
- Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor DRUNKARDS, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the Kingdom of God. (1Cor 6:10 KJV)
EATING PIG'S MEAT IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED BY GOD!
Eating swine meat is also strictly prohibited by God (Deuteronomy 14:8, Isaiah 65:2-4, 66:16-17).
- The PIG, because it has a split hoof but doesn't chew the cud, IS UNCLEAN TO YOU: OF THEIR FLESH YOU SHALL NOT EAT, and their carcasses you shall not touch. (Deu 14:8 HNV)
- I have spread out My hands all the day to A REBELLIOUS PEOPLE WHO WALK IN THE WAY NOT GOOD, AFTER THEIR OWN THOUGHTS; a people who without ceasing PROVOKE ME TO ANGER to My face…who remain among the graves, and sleep in the tombs, WHO EAT SWINE'S FLESH… (Isa 65:2-4 MKJV)
- For the LORD will execute judgment on all flesh with His fiery sword, and many will be slain by the LORD: Those who…enter the groves following their leader, EATING MEAT FROM PIGS, vermin, and rats, WILL PERISH together." This is the LORD's declaration. (Isa 66:16-17 HCSB)
Brother, different denominations have different point of view about eating and drinking forbidden things by Law. Please make me understand according to Messianic Kabbalah Wisdom.
HOW ABOUT MATTHEW 15:11 AND ACTS 10: 11-14
Do you think MATTHEW 15:11 and ACTS 10: 11-14 reveals that we have discretion to eat and drink without observing supernal law and following the Saints of the Old Testament.
The subject of Matthew 15:11 is not about eating unclean food, but about washing or not washing of the hands before eating (Matthew 15:2). And the subject of ACTS 10: 11-14 is about the acceptance and entry of the Gentiles to the Jewish Church or Citizenship of Israel.
For more explanations about this vital subject, go to:
1. What Can We Find In The HEART of The TORAH, which is The HEART OF GOD? It is The LAW of What Meat To Eat, and What Not To Eat. The PIG or Swine Meat Should Not Be Eaten. Are You After God's Own Heart?
2. Q343 of The BIBLE EXPLAINER.
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From the Group: iOBEY GOD BECAUSE...
Elsie Broas yes...amen
Eddiedwin Ochieng Ka'Midiwo As I started reading, something went through my mind; how is it that the bible doesn't prohibit drinking alcohol while the churches say it is sin and God says, 'do not eat pork but the church says eat?
I thank God for you've explained it be blessed. Speaking of low alcohol content, even some of our medicines contain alcohol.
Lope Columna: For the answer to your question, go to: Q484 of The BIBLE EXPLAINER.
I thank God for you've explained it be blessed. Speaking of low alcohol content, even some of our medicines contain alcohol.
Lope Columna: For the answer to your question, go to: Q484 of The BIBLE EXPLAINER.
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From the Group: Seventh-Day Adventist
Promise Nkomo Churches and people say different things but you chose to follow them or God
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From the Group: Christian Theology & Discussions
Erwin Kim de Souza What's your point?
Erwin Kim de Souza The books have nothing to do with recommendations about eating and drinking except to address a local concerns regarding food or drink to the audience they are addressing at that moment in time.
Herson Paat Thus said the Lord,obey His word.
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From the Group: SDA - THE REMNANT CHURCH OF CREATION
Fred Subingsubing Paul suggest to drink small amount of alcohol for the stomach but most people drunk until they cannot stand. And Jesus turn water to wine do you think it is content of alcohol???
Hermino
Vistal Orani A newly fresh juice is a genuine wine. When fermented, it
turns into alcoholic beverage that drunken a person who drink not in moderation
but make it as a vice that destroy its own reputation.
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Timothy
Scott Jesus never drank feremented wine. It was grape juice.
Dale Williams ...
Jesus certainly would not go contrary to the old Testament Scriptures which
specifically forbade fermented wine.
Proverbs 20:2 and Proverbs 23:29-32 indisputably condemns the use of alcoholic
beverage. Would Christ disobey the Scriptures? It is inconceivable..
It is true that wine is often approved for use in the Bible, but this is the
pure juice of the grape without fermentation. Unfermented wine.
Timothy
Scott The Bible refers to wine. Either as grape juice or alcohol. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered
within his tent.
Genesis 9:21 KJV http://bible.com/1/gen.9.21.KJV
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×™ַ×™ִן yayin
Noun Masculine yah‘-yin
Hebrew from an unused root meaning to effervesce; wine (as fermented); by implication,
intoxication:--banqueting, wine, wine(-bibber).
wine
For the children of Israel and the children of Levi shall bring the offering of
the corn, of the new wine, and the oil, unto the chambers, where are the
vessels of the sanctuary, and the priests that minister, and the porters, and
the singers: and we will not forsake the house of our God.
Nehemiah 10:39 KJV
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תִּירוֹשׁ tiyrowsh
Noun Masculine tee-roshe‘
Hebrew
or tiyrosh {tee-roshe‘}; from 03423 in the sense of expulsion; must or fresh
grape-juice (as just squeezed out); by implication (rarely) fermented
wine:--(new, sweet) wine.
wine, fresh or new wine, must, freshly pressed wine
And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was
uncovered within his tent.
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Dale Williams ...Yes.
The Unfermented non alcoholic grape juice and
the fermented alcoholic grace juice..
They are both referred to as wine in the Bible..
Jesus only partook of the Unfermented wine
Dale Williams What?
know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you,
which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your
spirit, which are God's...1 Corinthians 6:19,20
Mark Sheridan Can
an SDA keep on NOT breaking their ovens and cookware when a dead mouse or fly
is found on them......?
SDAs ONLY obey "bits and pieces" of O.T. law that just happen to
agree with EGW.
SDAs are INCONSISTENT "Cherry pickers" like Hebrew Roots.
Amy
March Weaver The poster is part of a cult that is clearly identified in
1 Timothy 4:1-5:
"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith
and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2Such teachings come
through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot
iron. 3They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain
foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe
and who know the truth. 4For everything God created is good, and nothing is to
be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5because it is consecrated by
the word of God and prayer."
Timothy
Scott This is the Catholic Church described. The conjuction and means
that both have to be present.
For instance. The dogs and cats are enemies. Both dogs and cats..
Dogs or cats can be enemies of humans... It means either dogs are enemies. cats
are enemies.
The SDA does not forbid marriage.. The only church that forbids marriage is the
Roman Catholic Church and The only church that forbids its people from eating
meat on certain days and times is the Catholic Church.. Clearly, basic English
grammar is lacking.
Amy
March Weaver You love to ignore scripture don't you. The text says
'forbid people to marry and ORDER THEM TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOOD. So, Timothy, SDA
and Catholic are in bed together -- both pushing doctrines of demons.
Timothy
Scott Maybe you need basic grammar on conjunctions.. The scripture
clearly say AND.. Not BUT OR. If the text said Or.. Then you might actually
have a legit case. But since it's And.. Both clauses have to be present. We
don't forbid marriage. We actually promote marriage.
I've provided a clip for learning how conjunctions functions.
Amy
March Weaver ^^^ hypocritical liar.
Timothy
Scott Read the text. Its an AND.. No OR.. No BUT.. AND.. Wow.. Read
the text as it is. Stop trying to twist it to suit your perverted idea..
Amy
March Weaver SDA, pushing doctrines of demons, attempting to hijack
the gospel of Jesus with teachings about foods and misidentifying the 'temple'
as being the colon and the guts, will be going straight where their false
prophetess goes -- into the lake of fire -- UNLESS they repent.
Amy
March Weaver SDA are NOT temples of the Holy Spirit. They reject being
born again, reject being baptized in the Holy Spirit. Then they turn and say
the 'obey' and they are 'temples' because they do certain things with their
guts and colons. RIDICULOUS cult people. Wow.
Amy
March Weaver Don't follow SDA, or their false prophetess ---- BAD
STUFF!!!!
Hermino
Vistal Orani You're the false prophet for you worship & praise
handiworks of men & don't obey the commandment given by the Lord of Sabbath
Jesus instead you replace your own manmade false Sabbath which is Sunday
keeping.
Amy
March Weaver I'm not a prophet at all. Just a witness for Christ. It
was Christ who warned about following false prophets,Hermino. He
said not to do that.
Amy
March Weaver Also, Hermino, there
is no commandment given to any Gentile ever, ever, ever to obey any of the
Jewish Covenant. That covenant was between God and them only. SDA have tried to
usurp Israel's place. That is clearly unwise. Revelation 3:9 tells you
what God thinks of people who pretend to be Jews, but are not.
Revelation 3:9 - Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say
they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship
before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Amy
March Weaver Jesus warned against false prophets and false christs in
Matthew 24:24. Again, what do we see in the SDA? Disobedience, denial, and
rejection of Christ and His teachings.
Timothy
Scott False witnesses as well..
Amy
March Weaver Yes, SDA are very false witnesses.
Timothy
Scott Well, 100000 just baptized at one time under our truth. Many are
coming in while others are leaving. Only God can do that..
Amy
March Weaver Yep, the revolving door. People get in to find out the
rot at the foundation of SDAism.
Timothy
Scott They are warned. Whether they endure or not. Its really up to
them.
Amy
March Weaver Right, because for SDA, not about Christ.
Amy
March Weaver You have a false religion, Timothy. You
are so hoping it will gain you eternal life by just being a part of that false
religion. Guess what? It won't help you a bit.
Timothy
Scott Its all about Christ. The foundation is built on Christ. And his
second coming.
Amy
March Weaver Your foundation is sand.
Timothy
Scott The only one who has a false religion is former SDA members.
Bitter demons .. Who lost sight of Christ.
Timothy
Scott They are stumbling in darkness. Grasping for truth. They have
turned from the truth to believe a lie. Brothers like Walter Veith and James
Tierney.. Men brought into the church by studying the Bible. And the Spirit
of God. Just men seeking the God from an honest hearts.
Amy
March Weaver So, perhaps you need to stay away from any alcohol
Hermino. You have discovered something that causes bad behavior in yourself?
Yes, you should stay away from it. The condition of your heart is what God
sees. God's Word says that the Kingdom of God is not a matter of food or drink
though.
Amy
March Weaver You SDA are so distracted by so many things. Very
unregenerate people. Very stiff-necked and unwilling to give yourselves over to
God. So you have problems governing yourselves. You are trying to pull yourself
up by your bootstraps. Not possible. You need the New Birth,Hermino Vistal
Orani!!
Timothy
Scott Amy March Weaver..
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth
in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the
temple of God is holy, which temple ye are....Ver
mais
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Timothy
Scott New Birth Christians know not to eat food that would destroy the
temple.
Amy
March Weaver Oops -- another SDA, once again, pretending that the
temple of God is guts.
Amy
March Weaver SDA are totally in the flesh. Walking by flesh.
Unregenerate people. Trying to gain heaven by way of their stomachs.
Amy
March Weaver Does your 'god' live in your colon? With all your poop??
Yuck.
Hermino
Vistal Orani A PIG is a PIG even you bath her wd soap & water,
even you f
Timothy
Scott God is spirit and wants us worship both in spirit(heart) and
Truth( laws of God).
If you loved God with all your heart, soul and strength.. You won't have other
Gods before him
Amy
March Weaver Right, like Ellen White, your sabbath idol, and the
immense pride you have. All things you put before God.
Timothy
Scott The Spirit never works contrary to the Bible. The Bible clearly
has not authorized the drinking of alcohol. That is why Christ refused the
vinegar..alcohol. And gall.drugs.
Timothy
Scott How is the Sabbath an idol when it's commanded.. Just like the
other 9 other commands. They are commandments!
Amy
March Weaver Building an ark was a commandment also. Have you done
that?
Amy
March Weaver Of course now. You are one big hypocrite.
Timothy
Scott We are building arks.. They are not the same kind of flood.
Amy
March Weaver Yep, and I observe the rest that Christ instructed me
about.
Timothy
Scott Not really.. Luke 23:56
Amy
March Weaver SDA refuse to walk by Spirit. They continue to walk by
flesh.
Amy
March Weaver Timothy, we
all know what Jewish people do.
Timothy
Scott You refuse to be led by the Spirit.
Amy
March Weaver God entered into a covenant with Israel -- that covenant
was the Old Covenant. It still stands in its entirety. God has a plan for that.
Amy
March Weaver SDA are Jew pretenders. God calls them 'liars' and 'of
the synagogue of Satan'.
Amy
March Weaver SDA push doctrines of demons.
Timothy
Scott The early church .. Paul Peter James and John were all Jews..
But they kept the Sabbath. The Gentiles were added. They kept Sabbath too.
Amy
March Weaver Poor SDA, they just don't have the texts they need to
show that Gentiles were ever given the law. Because they don't exist.
Amy
March Weaver Nope, Paul, Peter, and the disciples strictly forbid
laying that burden on the Gentiles. Can't read your Bible, right? The False
Prophetess effect on you?? Blinders on Timothy?
Timothy
Scott They already were keeping Sabbath.
Amy
March Weaver Nope, Gentiles never kept any rest day.
Amy
March Weaver We can rest whenever we wish. Also, Jews that come to
Jesus can also enter into the New Covenant and rest each and every day in
Jesus!!!
Timothy
Scott They did.
Amy
March Weaver Nope --- SDA myth.
Timothy
Scott The Bible clearly showed they kept Sabbath.
Amy
March Weaver Nope -- SDA myth.
Hermino
Vistal Orani A pig is a PIG . Even you bath her wd scented soap & water,
even you give her milk, she still a PIG who enjoy in a pool of mud of
darkness Amy
March Weaver.
Amy
March Weaver Pigs have nothing to do with your salvation, Hermino.
Timothy
Scott And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and
wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers. And he reasoned in the
synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks. And he
continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.
Acts 18:3-4, 11 KJV
For 18 months, He preached to the Gentiles on Sabbath day..
And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them,
and wrought: for by their occupation they were…
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Amy
March Weaver Yep, if you 'reason' with Jews, you must go to the
synagogue. LOL.
Amy
March Weaver Teaching the Word of God --- about Jesus. Not about Old
Covenant.
Timothy
Scott How can you glorify God by eating and drinking wrong?
By the way, When Jesus pointed to his coming, one of the signs of his coming
was eating and drinking..
What kind of eating and drinking brings the displeasure of God?
What was the sin of Sodom?
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and
abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she
strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed
abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
Ezekiel 16:49-50 KJV
They were eating wrong.
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Amy
March Weaver SDA are stuck in the Old Covenant. BUT .... they only do
a tiny little portion and do it poorly. They are accursed.
Amy
March Weaver SDA get all off in the weeds with their scripture
reading. That is because they do not have the gifting of the Holy Spirit to
help them. So, they wander, they cherry-pick, they corrupt, ignore, and deny.
SDA are idolatrous and full of pride.
Timothy
Scott Forewarned of Israel apostasy. And the Lord said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and
this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of
the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break
my covenant which I have made with them. For when I shall have brought them
into the land which I sware unto their fathers, that floweth with milk and
honey; and they shall have eaten and filled themselves, and waxen fat; then
will they turn unto other gods, and serve them, and provoke me, and break my
covenant. And it shall come to pass, when many evils and troubles are befallen
them, that this song shall testify against them as a witness; for it shall not
be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed: for I know their imagination which
they go about, even now, before I have brought them into the land which I
sware.
Deuteronomy 31:16, 20-21 KJVf
Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me
with food convenient for me: Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the
Lord ? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.
Proverbs 30:8-9, 16, 20-21 KJV
Something about eating wrong makes people lose their faith in God.. Hmmmm
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Hermino
Vistal Orani Amy March
Weaver a person who love to follow in her will & contradict Gods
Law like you is just like a pig who enjoy swimming in a pool of filth. Got my
point? A pig is a Pig. What she believes is her own understanding following her
religious leaders in proportion of their wrong practices like you,
Timothy
Scott The scriptures still says AND..
Hermino
Vistal Orani Amy March Weaver, your an anti Christ for you contradict
His commandments. If you love Jesus , then follow Him. He never defile himself
wd unclean animals for food. Jesus sanctified Sabbath for He is the
Hermino
Vistal Orani Lord of the Sabbath.
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